A quick fisk in response to Mr. Mindeman’s obvious glee at having been noticed.First, a point of agreement. Henry Hazlitt and the Austrian school of economics he represents are certainly not mainstream when “mainstream” is defined as “what the majority currently believes.” Copernicus was “out of the mainstream” in the Ptolemic world. Hazlitt’s contention (The art of economics consists in looking not merely at the immediate but also at the longer effects of any act or policy; it consists in tracing the consequences of that policy not merely for one group but for all groups) may indeed be refutable, but doing so requires an argument, not simply the lazy observation that it is “out of the mainstream.”On more contentious points, Mr. Mindeman further writes:
Although I used some defense contractors as an example of government “wealth” creation…. that, by no means, should be concluded as some kind of endorsement of that process. This type of corporation is just a prime example of Fortune 500 status being attained via the government. I would most assuredly have preferred that all of the government contracts that created the financial well being of these defense giants have gone to solar, wind, and other green companies that would have reduced our dependence on foreign oil rather than contributing to the wealthy retirement of Dick Cheney.
A couple of lessons here. First, principles are principles because they apply in all situations irrespective of whether one might personally approve of the outcome. Gravity is my friend when it keeps my feet firmly on the ground, but it is less than friendly when I trip and fall. The principle of gravity, however, does not change because of my clumsiness. Economic principles apply whether the government is subsidizing Dick Cheney’s retirement or green companies. They don’t change because of the consequences or in forgiveness of intellectual clumsiness.
The discussion we are having is not the political discussion of whether the Iraq war was politically necessary or (now) whether “green companies” should get government subsidies. We are having an economic discussion as to whether or not government stimulus creates jobs – whether in defense or the green industries.
The fact is that before government can subsidize any corporation, it must take the money out of the private sector in taxes. That necessarily means an opportunity cost. At the theoretical best it means that the increase in green jobs is offset by the loss of jobs in other industries. In reality the loss is greater because the end result is that the community pays a higher price for energy with all the consequent implications. If society were not incuring higher cost, no subsidy would be necessary.
Mr. Mindeman may value green energy more than war in Iraq. That’s okay, but that is a political opinion. The question on the table is whether stimulating either the defense industry or the green energy industry creates a net increase in jobs. Mr. Mindeman sees only the visible effects; he continues to ignore opportunity cost and secondary effects.
Mr. Mindeman further complains that I only dealt with his example of “soldiers” in refuting his notion that government creates jobs.
Now, Mr. Westover goes on, at length, about soldiers and defense contractors as a “poor” example of government created jobs, since the government is solely responsible for national defense. He ignored all the other positions that I listed….
Air Traffic Controllers….Food Inspectors….Park Service….Forest Rangers….Law Enforcement….Soldiers….Disease Research and Control…Regulators….Public Health…etc.,etc.
To the contrary of being a “poor” example, I chose the example of soldiers because soldiers and another category Mr. Mindeman listed, “law enforcement,” are the examples that might best support his position – they represent employment in support of constitutional obligations of government, which might lead one to conclude that government “created” these jobs. As support for his opinion that government creates jobs, the other categories are far less convincing evidence.
My argument briefly is that as long as government contains military spending to that which is necessary and sufficient for national defense, taxing and spending is legitimate. But when the government uses military expenditures as job creation (my example is the Duluth air base) it is wasting resources and creating a net job loss for society.
Mr. Mindeman does not address my argument vis-à-vis employment of soldiers, however, but simply comes back with this laundry list of government jobs to prove government creates jobs. Unfortunately for his position, each job he lists suffers from the same fallacy as the case for soldiers and law enforcement officers. I will be happy to deal with any or all of these categories individually, if Mr. Mindeman can explain to me how government employing these people is categorically different than the argument I made for over-employment of soldiers. I fail to find any discussion of that argument in his post. Of far more importance is clarifying Mr. Mindeman’s failure to comprehend the “Broken Window Theory.” He writes:
“But, there is another curious conclusion in Westover’s critique:
“Mr. Mindeman makes the classic error behind the “Broken Window Theory,” which assumes that when a window is broken that is a good thing because it creates a job for a glazier that otherwise would not exist. The glazier at work is what is seen. What is not seen is the job that is lost because the owner of the broken window must replace his window rather than buy something he wants. In aggregate, society is poorer by the value of one window, not wealthier by the money paid to the glazier.”
Are we making some kind of assumption that society, as a whole, has limited resources? That because a window is broken, it can’t just be fixed while purchasing what he wants at the same time? Are we to assume that their is some kind of economic balance sheet with finite resources in which every single transaction takes away from something else?”
Answering Mr. Mindeman’s questions in order:
Yes, society’s resources are not unlimited. Economics is all about the distribution of scarce resources to their most productive use.
No, a person can’t fix a broken window AND purchase what he wants. Admittedly that is simplistic for purposes of illustration. Certainly a broken window is not going to prevent you from taking a planned vacation to Disney World. But the economic principle is valid – the money spent to fix a broken window is money that cannot be spent more productively on something else.
Yes, every economic transaction has an opportunity cost. Before the window is broken, you have $250 (for example) and a $250 window. After the window is broken and you have it replaced, you no longer have the money, but you still have a $250 window. You can’t invest the $250 spent on the window and earn a return. You can’t spend it at Disney World. Likewise, before the window was broken, society’s wealth consisted of $250 and a window worth $250. After the window is broken, society still has $250 (only now the glazier has it, not you), but society is poorer by the replacement cost of one window, not to mention the productive value had you been able to spend or invest your $250.
Albeit based on his misunderstanding of the role played by opportunity cost, Mr. Mindeman draws an apt conclusion.
“If that is the case, then trickle down economics is the worst of all possible scenarios, because invariably we will run out of resources before we get to the bottom of the economic ladder.”
Indeed we will run out of resources if the predominate form of economic activity is government spending precisely because government produces no new wealth. As Mr. Mindeman stated earlier, he would prefer to see corporate subsides go to green energy companies irrespective of the economic consequences that such subsidies produce less energy at higher cost.
Capitalism is powered by the flow of capital and labor to its most effective use as determined by the price system. Wealth is created when a tailor takes $100 worth of cloth and labor and makes a coat people are willing to pay $200 to own. Society is wealthier by one coat and the quality of life is enhanced. When a Wal-Mart comes along and uses technology to cut its cost of sales so that it can sell the same coat for $180, the quality of life is again enhanced because now a person can own the same coat and still have $20 to purchase something else. Jobs are created to meet the increased demand for coats at a lower price point and to work in industries competing for the additional $20 in purchasing power.
Wealth increases when we pay less for the same or greater value. However, when government imposes taxes to redistribute wealth to a less effective purpose, the additional productivity, additional wealth in the community, is lost — and the jobs dependent on it.
Mr. Mindeman’s justification for the stimulus package boils down to this:
When a bridge is built, we have something tangible. We have an improved transportation conduit. We hopefully have updated and improved transportation. All of which contributes to more efficient commutes to work and transportation of goods. That is a positive on economic growth and stimulus in the truest sense of the word.
My question would be this: Why was the “Bridge to Nowhere” bad? It would have created jobs. It was tangible. It would have improved transportation; very little, but there would have been a net improvement. It was “shovel ready.”
As I note now for the third time, infrastructure projects that have benefits that exceed their costs, that taxpayers would collectively rather have than whatever their tax dollars might individually have purchased, are legitimate projects. But cost/benefit is not the stated criterion of the stimulus package. The stated criterion for projects is “shovel readiness.” The stated purpose is “creating jobs.” There is simply no way any group, however brilliant, can effectively allocate over a trillion dollars to its most effective use – especially when government has no criterion of benefit (like prices) other than “shovel readiness” and no purpose other than to “create jobs.”
David Boaz of the Cato Institute makes this point with an allegorical tale of a businessman on a trip to China.
While touring China, he came upon a team of nearly 100 workers building an earthen dam with shovels. The businessman commented to a local official that, with an earth-moving machine, a single worker could create the dam in an afternoon. The official’s curious response was, “Yes, but think of all the unemployment that would create.” “Oh,” said the businessman, “I thought you were building a dam. If it’s jobs you want to create, then take away their shovels and give them spoons!”
Earth-moving equipment improves productivity and frees up the capital and labor tied up in 100 men with shovels (or 10,000 men with spoons) to flow to other more productive uses. It is rather obvious that one does not stimulate the economy by taking tax money that might be used to build and buy earth-moving equipment to create jobs for shovel and spoon operators. It is less obvious but equally true one does not stimulate the economy by taking tax money from consumers and producers that might be used to produce products people will pay to consume to create jobs whose primary value is that they are metaphorically “shovel ready.”
That is the economic argument against the stimulus package. It may very well be refutable, but it is not refutable simply because Mr. Mindeman doesn’t like the consequences of the logic. Nor is it refutable by the blind faith in government spending that motivates Mr. Mindeman to claim, “We are at a crucial crossroads where only government can bring us back from the brink.” It is generous to call the failure to adequately deal with the secondary consequences of the stimulus package “bad economics”; it is hardly economics at all.
UPDATE: Minnesota Free Market Institute Senior Policy Fellow King Banaian provides an excellent lesson on “shovel ready.”
Mr. Westover, I’m Looking at Secondary Effects
Posted: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 15:23, Edited: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 15:30
by Dave Mindeman
Craig Westover at the Minnesota Free Market Institute seems to be intent on wasting valuable blogging space on their site with refuting blog postings over here.
As you wish…but his latest lecture has a couple of things that I just can’t accept. I don’t pretend to be an expert in economics but there are some things that “Professor” Westover discusses that just don’t make a lot of sense.
Here is one example:
The question on the table is whether stimulating either the defense industry or the green energy industry creates a net increase in jobs. Mr. Mindeman sees only the visible effects; he continues to ignore opportunity cost and secondary effects.
Westover emphasizes “secondary effects” on economic incursions. Defense industry jobs meet a level of acceptibility for Mr. Westover because they meet a Constitutional obligation of the government. But as to cost and secondary effects, Green industry jobs are a windfall (so to speak). Solar, wind and other alternative energies would replace fossil fuel sources. This would reduce energy costs (a secondary benefit). It would reduce imports of foreign oil and probably help reduce gasoline prices (another secondary benefit for business). It would create secondary industries in replacement parts and jobs for managing the system. (another secondary benefit).
Yet, with all these secondary cost benefits, the current economy has been slow to embrace this change. Why? Maybe because initial outlays for the change are very expensive and require long term planning…or maybe oil companies have lobbied against the changes by putting obstacles in the path of any transition.
But with Government stimulus (sorry, I have to use that word again), the initial changeover can be accelerated by a large government investment now. The economy as a whole would get those secondary benefits more quickly and costs would be recouped. And in addition, new industries would be created to meet new energy needs.
I’m sure that in Westover’s economic vaccum, a change of that magnitude would cause too much havoc with “opportunity costs” and “secondary effects” that are not created from within his closed system.
Westover seems to imply that Government is an intrusion on the economy and not intricately woven as it seems to be.
But there is one more thing he brings up:
Capitalism is powered by the flow of capital and labor to its most effective use as determined by the price system. Wealth is created when a tailor takes $100 worth of cloth and labor and makes a coat people are willing to pay $200 to own. Society is wealthier by one coat and the quality of life is enhanced. When a Wal-Mart comes along and uses technology to cut its cost of sales so that it can sell the same coat for $180, the quality of life is again enhanced because now a person can own the same coat and still have $20 to purchase something else. Jobs are created to meet the increased demand for coats at a lower price point and to work in industries competing for the additional $20 in purchasing power.
I am going to try to apply Westover’s theory to this same situation. I will surely get it wrong, but this example begs to be examined.
This tailor who makes a coat for $200 via his own labor and $100 of materials, is by definition a small business. In theory, his business would grow if he does a good job and people recommend him to their friends. But along comes Wal-Mart. They decide to make the coat for $180 by the following:
– reduced wages for employees (loss of wealth)
– demanding cost reductions from suppliers (loss of wealth)
– which in turns causes the supplier to lay people off(loss of wealth)
– which in turns causes that supplier to look for cheaper raw materials outside the country — more job loss (loss of wealth)
– in addition, Wal-Mart maintains low cost by moving its employees into government sponsored health programs (societal burden)
– and, Wal-mart drives wages furthur down by fighting off unions which keeps out more livable wages (more loss of wealth)
– and in the end, Wal-Mart drives the tailor out of business because he cannot compete on price (more loss of wealth)
Maybe the purchaser of the Wal-Mart coat gets an increase of $20 in purchasing power…..but what’s the real cost?
| WRITTEN BY CRAIG WESTOVER |
| WEDNESDAY, 11 FEBRUARY 2009 10:00 |
| That Mr. Mindeman considers an economic discussion of the federal stimulus package a “waste of valuable blogging space” is disappointing, but hardly surprising. Discussion of the stimulus program, like Senate resistance to the stimulus bill, just gets in the way of getting on with the implementation. Things would go a lot smoother if we “stimulus deniers” could simply be declared enemies of the people and shuttled of to some Gitmo-like reeducation center.Following a wish list of his proposed “secondary effects” of green industry jobs, which are actually potential direct benefits and not secondary effects as we ostensibly have been discussing (the unseen negative effects of an economic policy) — Mr. Mindeman writes:But with Government stimulus (sorry, I have to use that word again), the initial changeover can be accelerated by a large government investment now. The economy as a whole would get those secondary benefits more quickly and costs would be recouped. And in addition, new industries would be created to meet new energy needs.
I would be satisfied to simply point out that Mr. Mindeman confirms his confusion between “secondary benefits” and “secondary effects” in his statement of faith. We are not on the same page and discussion, like resistance in Mr. Mindeman’s ideal collective, is futile. But then he has to go a spoil it all by saying something stupid and predictably partisan in response tomy example of Wal-Mart increasing wealth and purchasing power by using technology to reduce the cost of sales.
To wit:
This tailor who makes a coat for $200 via his own labor and $100 of materials, is by definition a small business. In theory, his business would grow if he does a good job and people recommend him to their friends. But along comes Wal-Mart. They decide to make the coat for $180 by the following:
– reduced wages for employees (loss of wealth)
– demanding cost reductions from suppliers (loss of wealth)
– which in turns causes the supplier to lay people off(loss of wealth)
– which in turns causes that supplier to look for cheaper raw materials outside the country — more job loss (loss of wealth)
– in addition, Wal-Mart maintains low cost by moving its employees into government sponsored health programs (societal burden)
– and, Wal-mart drives wages furthur down by fighting off unions which keeps out more livable wages (more loss of wealth)
– and in the end, Wal-Mart drives the tailor out of business because he cannot compete on price (more loss of wealth)
Let’s look at this logically. First, Wal-Mart does not “make coats.” It purchases coats from suppliers. In my example, Wal-Mart is not buying cheaper coats (which it could do were there a market for cheaper coats). Wal-Mart, is purchasing coats from the tailor (at a wholesale price) and because of its more efficient operation, is able to increase its profits by retailing the same coat at $180. Wal-Mart makes more money, and consumers can buy the same quality coat for $20 less, which gives them an additional $20 in purchasing power. Nothing in that example has anything to do with the bullet points Mr. Mindeman raises, but I will nonetheless address them.
Mr. Mindeman complains that Wal-Mart pays low wages, and I’m going to throw in his point that Wal-Mart is non-union here because unbeknownst to him, he has a valid point. Labor is a commodity that has a market value. Employees are paid for the value they provide to employers, not on their wants or needs. Wal-Mart offers a wage and is able to find employees because working for Wal-Mart at the wage it offers is a better alternative than whatever other employment is available to potential employees. If potential employees have a better option, Wal-Mart will not be able to staff its stores and will have to raise it wage scale. This is where the union issue becomes valid.
If Wal-Mart overvalues or undervalues the worth of an individual employee, the effect on Wal-Mart with thousands of employees is insignificant. However, if an individual employee overvalues or undervalues his worth in the market, it can have significant impact on that individual person. Therein lies the value of unions. A standard union wage for what can be considered commodity jobs provides employees with information about their relative value in the market. (Please, we are not talking about the value of individuals as human beings, whether they are good parents or whether or not their mothers love them; we are talking about market realities.) Doing so, unions serve a valuable and productive purpose.
However, when unions, backed by government intervention, push wages above market value, they actually work against job and wealth creation. The visible direct benefits are higher wages for those employed. The unseen secondary effects are willing workers unemployed at a lower wage, higher consumer prices, and lower returns for capital providers to the business. The reality that faith-based union advocates ignore is that union’s enemy is not management; the enemy of union workers are those workers willing and able to do the same job at market wages. Much more could be written about unions’ detremental effects on the economy, but on to Mr. Mindeman’s next Wall-Mart fallacy.
Mr. Mindeman claims Wal-Mart demanding cost reductions from suppliers reduces wealth. I will assume that even Mr. Mindeman is not suggesting that if a supplier can produce the same quantity and quality for less cost that is a reduction in wealth. I’m going out on a limb here thinking Mr. Mindeman means Wal-Mart is evil because it makes suppliers cut their price to Wal-Mart. Why would a supplier do that? Because just like Wal-Mart, the supplier seeks to maximize his profits. If our tailor sells a hundred coats a year at $200 but can sell thousands of coats to Wal-Mart at $170 a coat, what do you think he will choose to do? He sells more coats, perhaps uses some of his new profits to expand his line or reduce his cost with the purchase of technology. If that new technology prompts the tailor to lay off people, those people will suffer. But in net aggregate, far more jobs are created by the productive use of capital than are lost. New wealth is created.
Again, I will give Mr. Mindeman the benefit of the doubt and assume by “cheaper” materials he doesn’t mean materials of the same quality but lower cost; he means the poor supplier squeezed by evil Wal-Mart will seek inferior quality “cheep” materials. By adding from “outside the country,” Mr. Mindeman (I must assume) is making the “imports/bad, exports/good” argument. The latter discussion is beyond the scope of a brief comment, but suffice it to say here that a) if a supplier to Wal-Mart lowers its quality, it risks losing its contract; b) if it finds the same quality materials at lower cost outside the country and imports them consequently lowering the cost of its products, the net aggregate effect is benefit to consumers and the economy, albeit at the expense of those employed by the higher cost domestic supplier. Ultimately, dollars spent on foreign goods must come back to the United States through the purchase of our products or as investment in our economy.
Mr. Mindeman complains that Wal-Mart moves people into government sponsored health programs rather than paying their health care. As the saying goes, “Don’t blame the pigs for eating if you keep filling the trough.” No question, that practice benefits Wal-Mart. It amounts to a corporate subsidy, which I was under the impression Mr. Mindeman thought was good – at least when applied to industries he likes. He doesn’t like Wal-Mart, therefore the subsidy is bad. For the economy, it probably is. But Mr. Mindeman’s inconsistency vis-à-vis corporate subsidies once again illustrates he is not arguing from economic principle. His argument is the faith-based contention that government will subsidize the “right” industries, which just happen to be those he favors.
Taking my example out of context, Mr. Mindeman claims Wal-Mart puts the tailor out of business. My tailor is a supplier who prospers by selling coats to Wal-Mart. Granted: Wal-Mart does influence the closing of small businesses whose value proposition cannot compete. That is the “creative destruction” of a free market. You can’t sell slide rules when an electronic calculator can be had for less than a buck (but think how many more people could be employed crunching numbers if we still used slide rules?). There is a limited market for people willing pay $200 for a coat when they can get the same quality coat for $180. That is how wealth is created and purchasing power increases.
I’ll end this discussion acknowledging the valid moral point that Mr. Mindeman attempts to disguise as economic principle – the creative destruction inherent in a free market system does cause real pain to real people (this severe recesion, however, has more to do with government policy than creative destruction). If we elect not to pass a stimulus package, if we let market work, people will lose their homes to foreclosure, companies will go out of business and people will lose their jobs. People will suffer. And although facilitating a market-based recovery is the economically sound way to combat the recession and, considering secondary effects, the right way to minimize the pain, leaving the discussion at that begs the moral question of dealing with real-life victims of the recession and errant government policy.
The strategy of a trillion-dollar government stimulus only disguises the people problem; it does not solve it. The opportunity cost of pumping a trillion dollars into the economy to prevent some people from suffering is that many more jobs will be lost or prevented from coming into being at the same time inflation lowers purchasing power and the quality of life – even for those people who directly benefit from the stimulus package.
Instead of trying to manage our way out of painful economic situation caused by government mismanagement of the economy, better to accept the pain and deal with it directly. Instead of trying to tweak a trillion dollars worth of stimulus, let the market work. Let the economy sort itself out. Let the foreclosures happen, the companies close and the jobs be lost. Let capital and labor flow to its most effective use. AND let us practice what we preach and consider the secondary effects — the negative consequendes of that policy.
How do we deal with people who cannot immediately find a place in the new economy? Should we provide direct taxpayer assistance? Through more government programs or in the form of vouchers that enable people to participate in the market economy? Should we provide direct taxpayer assistance for job training and education? Government programs or vouchers enabling people some choice in deciding their own affairs? Should we even direct money to specific choices through housing subsidies, for example, or simply provide individual assistance at some level and allow people to make unfettered decisions about how to best rebuild their economic viability?
The moral question of dealing with creative destruction in a free market is a luxury the productivity of the free market enables us to pursue. It is not a “gift” granted by the coercive compassion of command and control government. It is fitting and proper that we consider the plight of people displaced by the current economic situation; but in doing so, we must recognize our action is primarily a moral activity, not an economic issue, and treating it as such. The stimulus package is simply, ALL things considered, a very bad idea.
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Mr. Westover on Wal-Mart and A Scrooge Type Economic Outlook
Posted: Thursday, 12 February 2009 03:21, Edited: Thursday, 12 February 2009 03:34
by Dave Mindeman
According to Mr. Westover, I apparently erred when I evaluated potential stimulus actions by looking at potential secondary “benefits” of any program or project. Apparently, we must stick to “the unseen negative effects of an economic policy”.
I guess that must be the theory that banks who received the TARP money must be working on….why lend the money out to the risky general public when it can be held back for bonuses given to the people who really “understand” how to utilize capital.
Today’s lecture centered on another apparent misunderstanding of mine regarding Westover’s “Wal-Mart” story…..
But then he has to go a spoil it all by saying something stupid and predictably partisan in response to my example of Wal-Mart increasing wealth and purchasing power by using technology to reduce the cost of sales……In my example, Wal-Mart is not buying cheaper coats (which it could do were there a market for cheaper coats). Wal-Mart, is purchasing coats from the tailor (at a wholesale price) and because of its more efficient operation, is able to increase its profits by retailing the same coat at $180. Wal-Mart makes more money, and consumers can buy the same quality coat for $20 less, which gives them an additional $20 in purchasing power.
Unfortunately, I made some “stupid” assumptions. First of all, I never realized that Wal-Mart would use a simple tailor as a supplier. After all, custom making suits for individuals in a small tailor shop is foolishly inefficient. But, you see, if the tailor was going to furnish “wholesale” goods for Wal-Mart, then he would no longer be a tailor but a mass producer of suits. He would also have to meet the Wal-Mart criteria for that production. Keep the cost of materials and labor down to Wal-Mart standards.
I forget that technology and efficiency is always superior to meticulous individuality and careful custom design. The reality which is lost here is that the $180 coat from Wal-Mart is NOT the same as the $200 coat from the tailor. There is not just an increase of $20 in purchasing power….there is also a loss of quality. But there I go again, looking at those micro secondary benefits instead of the macro economic big picture.
Then Westover goes into some kind of backhand endorsement of labor unions….
However, if an individual employee overvalues or undervalues his worth in the market, it can have significant impact on that individual person. Therein lies the value of unions. A standard union wage for what can be considered commodity jobs provides employees with information about their relative value in the market. Doing so, unions serve a valuable and productive purpose.
OK, I followed him on that part, unfortunately he goes on…
However, when unions, backed by government intervention, push wages above market value, they actually work against job and wealth creation. The visible direct benefits are higher wages for those employed. The unseen secondary effects are willing workers unemployed at a lower wage, higher consumer prices, and lower returns for capital providers to the business.
I missed that one. “unions, backed by government intervention”?? What does that mean? And why the assumption that union wages are by definition “above market value”? Maybe unions arenecessary to determine true market value…. not just the lowest cost value. There might be a palpable difference.
And these “unseen secondary effects….. what are “willing workers unemployed at a lower wage, higher consumer prices, and lower returns for capital providers”…. If you are unemployed, your lower wage would seem to be $0. Don’t blame that on the union. A union is as much a part of “market forces” as availability (or lack therof) of raw materials or larger corporations attempts to drive out smaller competitors. And all of those things factor into prices and returns.
But secondary “benefits” of the union might be more satisfied and productive workers. More efficient wage negotiation. Oh, but I forgot secondary effects are always negative.
Here’ another one….
If that new technology prompts the tailor to lay off people, those people will suffer. But in net aggregate, far more jobs are created by the productive use of capital than are lost. New wealth is created.
The problem with that is that corporate giants like Wal-Mart don’t just eliminate or revamp the tailor shop — entire main streets get decimated. The local hardware store, the electronics dealer, the jewelry shop, and the little toy store on the corner. Jobs get concentrated in the corporate behemoths at wages they determine. Local entrepeneurs are discouraged from start-ups. Competition is stifled. I disagree that more jobs are created… and as for new wealth? It may be created but it gets funneled into the hands of the few.
I also like this concept regarding Wal-Mart emphasis on lower cost foreign imports:
Ultimately, dollars spent on foreign goods must come back to the United States through the purchase of our products or as investment in our economy.
Truth? Dollars come back to the US in the form of debt and trade deficits.
But let’s get back to the stimulus bill. Westover starts out with some realistic talk.
I’ll end this discussion acknowledging the valid moral point that Mr. Mindeman attempts to disguise as economic principle – the creative destruction inherent in a free market system does cause real pain to real people (this severe recesion, however, has more to do with government policy than creative destruction).
You bet there is pain out there and I am encouraged that Mr. Westover admits that recent government policy (which we can only assume refers to the Bush administration) has been a factor in causing that pain.
But then we get to the crux of the matter….
Instead of trying to manage our way out of painful economic situation caused by government mismanagement of the economy, better to accept the pain and deal with it directly. Instead of trying to tweak a trillion dollars worth of stimulus, let the market work. Let the economy sort itself out. Let the foreclosures happen, the companies close and the jobs be lost. Let capital and labor flow to its most effective use. AND let us practice what we preach and consider the secondary effects — the negative consequences of that policy.
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
“Let the market work.” But then that’s the problem…the market is NOT working. The normal functioning of the economy has been usurped by greedy bankers and lax government oversight. Letting the market “sort itself out” could go on for years, maybe decades. The depth of this recession was caused by an artificial force — greed. Bankers and predatory lenders caused an economic bubble that they knew had to burst — they just counted on it happening on somebody else’s watch.
That is why we need the stimulus. An intervening force to re-ignite the NORMAL economic forces and get us moving again. We will still feel that pain for a time but a damaged and weakened economy needs help to recover more quickly.
There is only one entity that can meet that need — government stimulus. And like it or not, it looks like some version of that stimulus will get passed this week.
Maybe Mr. Westover hopes it fails…..I don’t. |
The stimulus package: A simple ‘no’ might do
February 27th, 2009 by Craig WestoverA year ago, when U.S. Rep. John Kline was making news by refusing to earmark projects for the 2nd District, Margaret Donahoe, director of the Minnesota Transportation Alliance, voiced her opposition to Kline’s proposal. ‘If the money doesn’t go to Minnesota for Minnesota projects,’ she said, ‘it will go to other states for their projects.’ Typical liberal, right? Maybe so, but in an interview at the National Governors Association meeting, conservative Gov. Tim Pawlenty also voiced the if-I-don’t-somebody-else-will argument vis-a-vis the stimulus package, albeit a bit more appetizingly — he served it up with a slice of pizza.
Asked by National Review Online reporter Jim Geraghty if he were not being hypocritical for criticizing the stimulus bill but then taking the money, Pawlenty pointed out that Minnesota gets only 72 cents back for every tax dollar sent to Washington.
“I say,” said the governor, “when you’re paying to buy the pizza, it’s okay to have a slice.” Besides, Pawlenty added, liberal Democratic governors who oppose federal programs such as No Child Left Behind still take federal funding. “So I’m wondering,” said the governor, “why that standard is only being applied to conservatives.”
On the SCSU Scholars blog, my Minnesota Free Market Institute colleague and St. Cloud State University economics professor King Banaian boiled Pawlenty’s argument down to its essentials: Others are taking money, so why shouldn’t I; since I have to pay anyway, I might as well get my stuff. “We wouldn’t accept this logic from our kids,” wrote Banaian.
Ed Morrissey, writing at the conservative blog Hot Air, cut the governor a little more slack. “Refusing the money on principle sounds noble, but in effect will amount to a double taxation on Minnesotans,” Morrissey wrote. “I just don’t think that Pawlenty’s argument is as bad as some might think.”
Morrissey nonetheless recognizes the conservative principle at stake: The federal government should quit taking so much money from the states — and then we wouldn’t need to worry how much of it comes back, because it won’t have left in the first place. “Of course, that’s an entirely academic approach to the question,” he added. “In reality, the money will come from Minnesota, and the question is whether the Pizza Principle applies.”
There in a nutshell, or a pizza pan, is the conservative dilemma. When do conservatives stand on principle, and when do they sacrifice principle for … what?
“Sacrifice” is a word thrown about more than it is defined. “Sacrifice” is relinquishing a higher value for a lesser value. The idea of “sacrificing for one’s principles” is a nonsensical contradiction. If the governor is willing to sacrifice conservative principles to balance the budget, then balancing the budget by whatever means has a higher value than conservative principle. If not, why sacrifice the principle?
Recently, Mitch Pearlstein of the Center of the American Experiment sent around a provocative e-mail posing a question to Minnesota conservatives.
“Politicians, commentators, and others are talking increasingly about the need for citizens to ’sacrifice,’ ” Pearlstein wrote. “Specifically, what government services currently and directly benefiting you and your family — be those services local, state, or federal — would you be willing to see curtailed or even ended entirely?”
Eighteen people responded. Pearlstein respectfully noted: “Although to be quite blunt and without intending to offend anyone in any way, the amount of pain implicit in most of these proposed sacrifices seems to be more pinching than wringing. Bluntly put again, this likely is a product of the fact that the kinds of middle-class and more affluent people who participate in exercises like this (unless they’re on Medicare) generally don’t rely terribly much on the kinds of governmental health care and other social welfare programs slated to be scaled back in coming months.”
Sorry, Mitch, but perhaps conservatives need to be offended.
Juxtapose the governor’s “Pizza Principle” and the responses to Pearlstein’s question, and we have a pragmatic sort of conservatism that is both willing to have others pay for a better Minnesota and willing to have others sacrifice for a better Minnesota. That heads-I-win-tails-you-lose position is not a proposition for Minnesotans that inspires confidence in conservative leadership.
A more revealing question than Pearlstein’s “What government services would you be willing to see curtailed?” might have been: “What government services have you, or will you, unilaterally give up?” As there is no virtue in government-imposed charity, there is no virtue in accepting government benefits because, if you don’t take them, somebody else will. There is no virtue in waiting for government to stop loading up your plate before you push away from the table. Perhaps the answer to Pearlstein’s question, and the proper response to the federal stimulus package, is as simple as, “Just say no.”
Craig Westover is a contributing columnist to the Pioneer Press Opinion Page and a senior policy fellow at the Minnesota Free Market Institute.. His e-mail address is westover4@yahoo.com This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .
This commentary originally appeared in the St. Paul Pioneer Press Friday, February 27, 2009.
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